Alright, I've gone through everything posted in this thread, including Sonic's final reply, both sides and every screenshot attached.
The $1,200 lifetime mentorship purchase is not in dispute. Sonic's own messages confirm Duoley was a paying member, so that part is settled.
On Sonic's last reply: he's right about one thing. No provider is expected to sit back while their own group gets trashed, and wanting some kind of insurance against leaks is not an absurd concern by itself, every seller on here deals with that risk. But that doesn't line up with what the evidence shows. The messages he banned over were fail reports posted in the Fails topic, a channel that exists exactly for that by his own admission, one question about being beta testers, and complaints about the boxing that match his own words in DM ("yeah that one was shit bro really"). That's a paying member leaving feedback in the feedback channel, not a FUD campaign. He says anyone can DM him with issues and he always sorts it there; Duoley did DM him, and the outcome was a ban plus conditions. The "mass DM" and "pushing people to report me" claims still have zero evidence attached, so they can't be considered, and the leak suspicion stayed a suspicion: the screenshot he provided shows nothing beyond Duoley refusing to give his forum name.
On the insurance part: nowhere in his own ToS does it say a member owes an apology or their Patched username to keep access. "Send me ur patched account, if you don't send i will not add you back" is right there in writing, and that's holding a paid service hostage over something that was never part of the deal. If a member ever leaks content, the correct move is to report it here with proof and staff will handle it, not to pre-collect forum usernames as leverage. Also worth noting: once the username was public through this report anyway, the response was to mock the account ("no rep, worth nothing") instead of re-adding him, which tells us the demand was never really about security.
That said, his final message closes with: "All he gotta do is say sorry and i will add him to the mentor again." Duoley already apologized in DM, that's documented, and Sonic has now publicly dropped the username condition himself. So this is easy to close.
Verdict: the report stands, and the resolution is simple. @SonicRefs has 24 hours to re-add Duoley to the mentorship group with full lifetime access, no conditions attached, and confirm it in this thread. No username handover, no further demands. Duoley, on your end: keep the group chat civil and take issues to DM as offered. Any leaks or trashing after reinstatement and this verdict flips. If Sonic fails to comply within 24 hours, this becomes a confirmed scam and he'll be banned. Thread stays open until resolved.
The $1,200 lifetime mentorship purchase is not in dispute. Sonic's own messages confirm Duoley was a paying member, so that part is settled.
On Sonic's last reply: he's right about one thing. No provider is expected to sit back while their own group gets trashed, and wanting some kind of insurance against leaks is not an absurd concern by itself, every seller on here deals with that risk. But that doesn't line up with what the evidence shows. The messages he banned over were fail reports posted in the Fails topic, a channel that exists exactly for that by his own admission, one question about being beta testers, and complaints about the boxing that match his own words in DM ("yeah that one was shit bro really"). That's a paying member leaving feedback in the feedback channel, not a FUD campaign. He says anyone can DM him with issues and he always sorts it there; Duoley did DM him, and the outcome was a ban plus conditions. The "mass DM" and "pushing people to report me" claims still have zero evidence attached, so they can't be considered, and the leak suspicion stayed a suspicion: the screenshot he provided shows nothing beyond Duoley refusing to give his forum name.
On the insurance part: nowhere in his own ToS does it say a member owes an apology or their Patched username to keep access. "Send me ur patched account, if you don't send i will not add you back" is right there in writing, and that's holding a paid service hostage over something that was never part of the deal. If a member ever leaks content, the correct move is to report it here with proof and staff will handle it, not to pre-collect forum usernames as leverage. Also worth noting: once the username was public through this report anyway, the response was to mock the account ("no rep, worth nothing") instead of re-adding him, which tells us the demand was never really about security.
That said, his final message closes with: "All he gotta do is say sorry and i will add him to the mentor again." Duoley already apologized in DM, that's documented, and Sonic has now publicly dropped the username condition himself. So this is easy to close.
Verdict: the report stands, and the resolution is simple. @SonicRefs has 24 hours to re-add Duoley to the mentorship group with full lifetime access, no conditions attached, and confirm it in this thread. No username handover, no further demands. Duoley, on your end: keep the group chat civil and take issues to DM as offered. Any leaks or trashing after reinstatement and this verdict flips. If Sonic fails to comply within 24 hours, this becomes a confirmed scam and he'll be banned. Thread stays open until resolved.
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Scam Warning: I will never DM you first. If someone claims to be me — report & ignore.
Scam Warning: I will never DM you first. If someone claims to be me — report & ignore.
