I sent the AVS bypass guide to a couple of people in the refunding community and these were their responses:
1 - https://prnt.sc/QD2Vu6niYMPV
2 - https://prnt.sc/gPjg03kKF5c1
I can provide the @'s of these people solely to A35 if he requests to speak to them directly.
You didn't provide me with all of the details beforehand. The guide which I can send to @A35 for a review and an opinion too if he wishes.
In the guide is clearly stated that it's not 100% guaranteed to work every time because the AVS system is very complicated.
The guy asked me if iCard is okay to which I replied that it should be good. - https://prnt.sc/yxNbuslSSlIu
He told me he was looking to order on .ca and .com domain which again should be ok as long as he follows everything step by step. The guy forgot to mention that the openup was european and in some random EU country because "that was the only thing in the market". I have repeated multiple times to use revolut because it's simply the best for amazon (from experience) as well chargebacks are easy to win using revolut in case OFM lock. He was asked by amazon to provide a bank statement or some way to verify his address to which I told him to photoshop it and send it and at that point he told me the iCard was european. Then he starts acting as if I should have known that information by default and to tell him beforehand. Sorry but it's more than logical that when you want to refund a specific store in a specific region you need to use a bank in that region, not one from the other side of the planet. If it was some canadian or even american openup the order has a way higher chance of going through.
He told me "so can u just refund me man, im done with amazon" to which I replied with messages regarding trying with a different document and I have showed him that I do 1-2 orders a month myself to my country hence the higher amount of vouches follow to that country. He proceeds to tell me "theres nothing wrong ive lost enough investigating already" and I followed with asking him questions about the fact that he is trying to purchase on canadian region with an european bank (openup).
Also to not forget he told me he is not even in the EU. So a person not from europe, with an european openup trying to order on canadian website.
To which I suggested to get a canadian openup because that is the most logical thing to do obviously. "i dont have any money now to spend on any open ups, IM DONE WITH AMAZON" that was his response word by word.
My response was
"Indo | AMAZON INSTANT | LENOVO, [2/2/2025]
u being done with amazon and doing strange stuff is not my fault
Indo | AMAZON INSTANT | LENOVO, [2/2/2025]
u need an openeup in the same country or at least region"
After that was mainly going back and forward regarding the fact him threatening me with him posting about me scamming for $250 on refunding chats and groups stating "ok cool see a post every day about urself, imma contact that one guy with he news channel aswell, a pain in he ass forums has left" to which I gave him a link to the guy's channel that exposes scammers.
Then he "FOUND OUT" that I was on patched "its a shame uthat u didnt tell me ure on pto aswelll lol" to which I simply sent him my profile link and a link to the guide on how to open a scam report.
https://prnt.sc/Cjceb0O-jvg2
"just follow on screen instructions"
Well when amazon are telling you to follow the screen instructions obviously you do to unlock the account from the AVS after providing a document.
One last thing. You threatening to "ruin my business" and "make me fight for my stuff" will not change the fact you are doing the most illogical stuff WITHOUT even telling me in advance. If you just said I am using an european iCard I would have immediatelly tell you that it's not going to go through.
I am not sure if iCard is even available to get in Canada or the US but I do not think it's my job to know single bank, every single virtual bank to whether they work in certain countries or not. I only provide info about the ones I have personally tested and I have found that to be Revolut which I suggested countless times.
If A35 requests I can provide the full conversation from start until end via PM's. I got everything recorded.
1 - https://prnt.sc/QD2Vu6niYMPV
2 - https://prnt.sc/gPjg03kKF5c1
I can provide the @'s of these people solely to A35 if he requests to speak to them directly.
You didn't provide me with all of the details beforehand. The guide which I can send to @A35 for a review and an opinion too if he wishes.
In the guide is clearly stated that it's not 100% guaranteed to work every time because the AVS system is very complicated.
The guy asked me if iCard is okay to which I replied that it should be good. - https://prnt.sc/yxNbuslSSlIu
He told me he was looking to order on .ca and .com domain which again should be ok as long as he follows everything step by step. The guy forgot to mention that the openup was european and in some random EU country because "that was the only thing in the market". I have repeated multiple times to use revolut because it's simply the best for amazon (from experience) as well chargebacks are easy to win using revolut in case OFM lock. He was asked by amazon to provide a bank statement or some way to verify his address to which I told him to photoshop it and send it and at that point he told me the iCard was european. Then he starts acting as if I should have known that information by default and to tell him beforehand. Sorry but it's more than logical that when you want to refund a specific store in a specific region you need to use a bank in that region, not one from the other side of the planet. If it was some canadian or even american openup the order has a way higher chance of going through.
He told me "so can u just refund me man, im done with amazon" to which I replied with messages regarding trying with a different document and I have showed him that I do 1-2 orders a month myself to my country hence the higher amount of vouches follow to that country. He proceeds to tell me "theres nothing wrong ive lost enough investigating already" and I followed with asking him questions about the fact that he is trying to purchase on canadian region with an european bank (openup).
Also to not forget he told me he is not even in the EU. So a person not from europe, with an european openup trying to order on canadian website.
To which I suggested to get a canadian openup because that is the most logical thing to do obviously. "i dont have any money now to spend on any open ups, IM DONE WITH AMAZON" that was his response word by word.
My response was
"Indo | AMAZON INSTANT | LENOVO, [2/2/2025]
u being done with amazon and doing strange stuff is not my fault
Indo | AMAZON INSTANT | LENOVO, [2/2/2025]
u need an openeup in the same country or at least region"
After that was mainly going back and forward regarding the fact him threatening me with him posting about me scamming for $250 on refunding chats and groups stating "ok cool see a post every day about urself, imma contact that one guy with he news channel aswell, a pain in he ass forums has left" to which I gave him a link to the guy's channel that exposes scammers.
Then he "FOUND OUT" that I was on patched "its a shame uthat u didnt tell me ure on pto aswelll lol" to which I simply sent him my profile link and a link to the guide on how to open a scam report.
https://prnt.sc/Cjceb0O-jvg2
"just follow on screen instructions"
Well when amazon are telling you to follow the screen instructions obviously you do to unlock the account from the AVS after providing a document.
One last thing. You threatening to "ruin my business" and "make me fight for my stuff" will not change the fact you are doing the most illogical stuff WITHOUT even telling me in advance. If you just said I am using an european iCard I would have immediatelly tell you that it's not going to go through.
I am not sure if iCard is even available to get in Canada or the US but I do not think it's my job to know single bank, every single virtual bank to whether they work in certain countries or not. I only provide info about the ones I have personally tested and I have found that to be Revolut which I suggested countless times.
If A35 requests I can provide the full conversation from start until end via PM's. I got everything recorded.
LONG LIVE NULLED
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