Scam Report against @SonicRefs

[dragon00]

Username: SonicRefs
Profile Link: https://patched.to/User/sonicrefs 
Threads of sales: https://patched.to/Thread-%E2%AD%90%E3%8...ly-vouched
Amount scammed: 0.75052114 ETH, currently around 1800$

Proof of payment:
https://prnt.sc/GwTXfsDcsuYg

Additional Information: bought his service for a ref or double dip, he got me a replacement and just took my money without the refund beeing done, promising me to refund me the fees if there is any problems with return. after more than 2 months of trying to get the refund, I gave up. the method was doomed from the beginning, since the company knew about the method and now he refuses to refund me the fees.

I have screenshots of conversations and can send it to an admin if needed.

[A35]

@SonicRefs Reply within 12 hours.

[SonicRefs]

26-06-2025, 05:37 PM dragon00 Wrote:

Username: SonicRefs
Profile Link: https://patched.to/User/sonicrefs 
Threads of sales: https://patched.to/Thread-%E2%AD%90%E3%8...ly-vouched
Amount scammed: 0.75052114 ETH, currently around 1800$

Proof of payment:
https://prnt.sc/GwTXfsDcsuYg

Additional Information: bought his service for a ref or double dip, he got me a replacement and just took my money without the refund beeing done, promising me to refund me the fees if there is any problems with return. after more than 2 months of trying to get the refund, I gave up. the method was doomed from the beginning, since the company knew about the method and now he refuses to refund me the fees.

I have screenshots of conversations and can send it to an admin if needed.

You came to us for a refund on a store we don’t officially service, but we still ran it for you anyway to help out. Within a week you got a full replacement, you accepted it and there were no complaints after that. As far as we were concerned the job was done.

Now months later you’re saying I promised a refund if it didn’t work out which never happened. I didn’t say that, and there’s no message or proof because it wasn’t part of the deal. You agreed to the replacement, you got it and nothing else was owed after that.

You even said in your own post that you received the replacement. So trying to call it a scam now doesn’t really make sense. You got what was offered by store and nothing more was promised from our side.

[dragon00]

First of all, I asked you if you can do the shop before ordering and you said yes np.

I did not "agree" to a replacement, I wanted a refund, and your worker asked me if replacement is ok, but only If I can send it back for a refund, which is more work, but better than nothing.
You got me a replacement, by then I knew what method you will use and instead of just doing it and making sure I get the refund, you basically forced me to pay the fees, I could have just done it myself by then, but I still paid you, since I booked your service and didnt want to be an ahole.

Afterwards you just send an ftid and called it done, then told me to send the replacement back for a full refund and if anything happens, you refund me the fees. 

Proof: https://prnt.sc/oRnLoKA4QYnU

I tried for 2 months and a dozen calls/emails to get the return + refund, which was basically your job and it failed. the company knows about the method and they investigated everything and denied me the refund. That means that the replacement failed, bc sooner than later I would have gotten a rebill.

[SonicRefs]

I took your order but never promised a refund. A replacement counts as a refund especially since the store you asked about is not something we service. You cannot pick and choose terms after the fact.

The replacement was the only real option available. I cannot just magically refund it for you. I had to work with the option that was available at the time.

Also I never promised a refund because I wasn’t sure if I could process one. This store is not something we service so refunds are not guaranteed.

Figuring out the method on your own does not mean you get a free service. Once the replacement is sent our part is done @A35.

The FTID we done to help you avoid being rebilled and to support your refund attempt @dragon00.

A replacement cannot be called a failure if it was properly issued @A35.

[dragon00]

the replacement was on the basis that they will never find out, which they did, so the replacement failed. you cannot just take the payment and just ftid and call it done. that is not how a replacement or a refund works and you should know it the best. 

I believe I have all the proof I need. The screenshot in my previous post proofs that he promised me to refund me the fees if the return fails and If I do not get a refund. @A35

also another proof: https://prnt.sc/jLBeDFzHyQRn

[SonicRefs]

If the store had rebilled you or if you never received a replacement or refund, that would be our responsibility. However, we already secured a replacement for you and charged you for one dip only. This is not a scam. Please stop making false claims and spreading misinformation.

[dragon00]

@A35 his claim is ridiculous. I sent back the replacement for a refund like he told me and did not get a refund, since they found out that was ftid. this means that the replacement failed. if the replacement was successfull, I would have gotten the refund, since I sent back the replacement. there was never a rebill, because I never got the refund in the first place, which means that he failed. If I kept the replacement, there would have been a rebill 100%, but it does not matter since he told me to send the replacement back for a refund and if it doesn't work, he will refund me the fees.

It does not matter how he tries to twist and turn the truth, because now I have the item, which I paid for it AND paid his fees, which is neither a refund nor a replacement. Also returning the first item is impossible and now I am almost 7k in the hole.

[SonicRefs]

I know this isn’t what you wanted but we are not required to help you return the item for a refund. That is beyond our agreement especially after you opened a scam report. Once you receive shipping confirmation our responsibility ends and we will not take further action.
 
If you had not opened the scam report and instead asked for paid help to initiate a chargeback or secure a refund along with the replacement we might have continued working with you. That approach tries to get both the replacement and a refund paying separately for each.
 
You say there would have been a rebill if you kept the replacement but that is just speculation. Since no rebill happened we cannot base decisions on what ifs.
 
This kind of situation happens often with stores like Lenovo as an example, where getting a refund after a replacement is nearly impossible without a chargeback. That is why we advise customers to sell both devices to maximize profit.
 
Bottom line you paid us for the replacement only. You returned it trying to get a refund but that did not work.
 
As I said before we have limited experience with this store and warned you. You cannot expect us to control their policies or guarantee outcomes.

[dragon00]

yeah you’re a liar and my screenshots proof it. you told me that surely you can do the store, which obviously you have no idea how to refund, if there was any doubt on your part, I would have used a different ref, then you told me to pay up without it being done and promised me 2 times to refund me if I don’t get a refund when sending back the replacement and now you refuse to refund. there was never a word of you saying that I should sell the replacement.

If that is not a scam then what is. sending a ftid is not automatically a refund nor a replacement done, especially in 2025

Also I was the one offering you that we can still work together and you could have made way more money if you just paid back the fees.

truly there is no honor among thieves.

@A35 @beastmode can you take a look at this?