Scam report against | /User/onlycheap | $75

[lilhottie]

Username: onlycheap
Profile Link: https://patched.to/user/onlycheap
Short Description Of Product/Service: Onlyfans + Skrill account
Thread of sales: No.
Screenshots of conversation: https://imgur.com/a/c7U2w6E
Amount scammed: He is trying to scam me of $75 

Proof of payment (IMPORTANT, PLEASE POST): He paid me and he is threatening me to refund him $75 otherways he opens scam report.

Additional Information: I did 1 trade with onlycheap for Onlyfans + Skrill account MALE account same name in 17-18th August fully verified, he paid me 70$ back then but Skrill couldn't be connected on Onlyfans because even name was same 1 line was missing from name on Skrill and Onlyfans don't accept that. No problems I refunded him yesterday but with the condition to give me back the first accounts that i sent him because i could fix that issue and sell them again. We agreed on that, yesterday he sent me accounts and I sent him the 2 other fresh accounts, but when he sent me the accounts I told him to give me time first to check if the first accounts i  gave him were good and untouched so i could sell them again. When I said that he started acting weird, spamming me and not letting me check the accounts as i should have, trusting him, I sent him the 2 fresh accounts and i didnt check, so last night after I checked the accounts, I realised he had used the onlyfans account i gave him on 18th august for fraud and he still asked for replacement without telling me he had actually used the account, which makes me impossible to sell this account again. I messaged him, he paid me for the Onlyfans + Skrill account, I gave him the right credentials everything, and then he started saying that gmail account doesn't work, that he can't login, and then suddenly saying I changed GMAIL password and gave him GMAIL password wrong and he asked for refund of money. What he trying to do is that he changed gmail password himself after delivery and he is saying I did that so he could get back the 75$ he had sent me and keep both the accounts, he is trying to scam me and he is threatening me that if I don't give him the money within 12 hours he opens a scam report, i think he won't even do that because he knows i did everything correctly and sincerely but he is trying to get the money from me and keep both accounts, so scam me of 75$. Also the problem is I don't know his forum name and he doesn't want to communicate it, probably because he is scared i will open a dispute against him for trying to scam. At one instance he insisted me in logging me on the gmail account with the password he had given me, which i did and then he started saying that i changed password. Ofcourse I didn't, and when i tried to login on the gmail account, google offered me the possibility to change password by putting the last password i remember which i did and gave him again the new password. After 6 minutes he told me that "I changed password" again. I couldn't login anymore because he had put phone number recovery and everything, he secured the google account perfectly and now he is saying i did that myself. Please help me because he might try this scam technique with other people which might fall for it.

You can see in the photos from the conversation and my personal screenshots that I was logged out both from PC and Phone Device, and that he had logged in from Hungary on phone and browser.

[beastmode]

@OnlyCheap reply within 12 hours

[OnlyCheap]

Let me explain this,

I first paid $75 for OF and Skrill him to resell, but the name of the Skrill was wrong, so he didn't linked it to skrill properly. He told me to do it myself and contact OF support. After two weeks, there was no response from OF customer support, so I told him to replace it or fix it. He then told me to chat with customer support on Skrill. I told him that this was your mistake and fix it for me, He said he can’t. Then I asked him to replace the account and he said he will give me a replacement. Then he gave me a new account and asked for the 1st  account. And he was logged in to 1st account and he checked  and said he can’t sell it anymore cuz my client used it. 


So I paid another $75 and asked him to give me that 1st account too. then I tried to logging to the old account and I can’t cuz there is a code verification on it 



so I asked him for the code and he blamed me that I changed the password and added a phone number. I couldn’t even login to account cuz password was changed. So my client sent me a screenshot that sent to his recovery mail saying password has been changed on the 1st account and I forwarded that message to Lilhottie.



After while he sent me a new password. 



Even 10 old kid know that no one can’t change the password without logged in. If he is saying that I’m the one who added the phone number to the account, how can he logged in to the account and change the password without code verification? Then I logged in to the mail account with the new password that he sent me, and I changed the password on mail and OF account also. then after 5 mins later I was logged out automatically from both accounts. Then he laughed and screamed me that im gonna scam him.

And I didn’t even asked for the refund and he said that I was going to asked the refund and scam me and that would be my next step, and he keep saying things that he imagined not even happened yet. I only asked for the account not refund.

So he keep repeating the same thing that I didn’t even do, so I finally asked him to refund or the account. And then he blocked me. 



So basically I paid him $150 totally for two accounts but he only gave me only the second account ( 1st account password still changed as I explained ). So I don’t even understand what’s the scam that I did to him, he is the one who scammed me taking my $150 and giving me one account. Why the fuck he blocked me if I’m the scammer? So basically he is pointless and I’m the one who got scammed by him and have to open a scam report. 

When I try to explain he didn’t even listen and keep screaming the same thing that Im the scammer and trying to keep the account and my $75. So as you can see he keep trying to put the blame on me to keep both



The whole scam report of about a thing that he imagined not actually happened. You can clearly see on his thread he never said I scammed him and he said I’m going to scam him cuz he was pointless and want to keep the account and money. 

So I need the accounts that fixed the skrill issue or my $75

[lilhottie]

Okay i will try to explain the problem perfectly using screenshots from the conversation and the actual proof that he logged in on the Gmail account after i told him so and changed password.

So, I gave him the first pack of Onlyfans + Skrill account in 17th August fully verified, indeed there was a problem with the name having a small missmatch with a "-" in the First Name of the person and Onlyfans, even if the name and the ID is the same on OnlyFans and Skrill, they don't accept the link because the system detects a missmatch in the name.
He told me about that and since account was verified and I offer warranty after I deliver the product, I tried helping him in the best manners possible to fix the issue, so I told him to contact support because it was a system error and to tell them to fix the problem because the 2 accounts were indeed on the same ID and they had the same name except the fact that on Onlyfans there was the name with a "-" and on Skrill the "-" wasn't present. Important notice is that Skrill don't accept special characters in the name, so putting "-" on skrill is not possible.

Skrill support did not answer at that time so he told me to replace and gave me a deadline by 27th August by night to replace the accounts, which I did. Second pack of Onlyfans + Skrill were done by 27th August and ready to be delivered. I messaged Onlycheap (@Kynorix on telegram ) and told him that I am ready to deliver but before delivering, I want to receive the first pack back so I could sell them again. 

Here is the screenshot where he gave me the accounts back.

The problem then was that after he gave me the credentials of the first pack again, he rushed me and spammed me to give him the fresh pack of accounts back ASAP and did not give me enough time to properly check the condition of the accounts and to tell them if they were used or not or if they had any issues, so I couldn't check them and gave him the second pack of Onlyfans + Skrill.

Here you can see he spammed me and did not give me enough time to check them.

Then I gave him the second pack of accounts:


After that, when I had enough free time to check the accounts he gave me back and get them ready to sell again, I encountered that the Onlyfans was already used & loaded by the customer and I told him i was not able to sell it again since account was already used, loaded by the customer and nobody ever will accept such an account. ( I told him beforehand as you can see in the previous screenshots that I could replace only with the term that he could give me the first pack of accounts back as I delivered. It shouldn't have been a problem because if he said he couldn't use them, it should have meant that he hadn't used them at all. )
This is what I found and this is how Onlyfans account was delivered back by Onlycheap:


https://ibb.co/whXMbX3n ( due to the nature of the unappropriate photo I only put the link here )

Seeing this stuff I ofcourse could not accept the account back.

Then I told him that I couldn't accept this pack back and told him to pay me for the first pack aswell because instead of asking for a replacement after he used the account, we could fix easily by contacting Onlyfans support to fix the name issue and he could then link the Skrill ( not a big issue, easily solvable ). People that use Onlyfans know this is a very easy way and it takes 1 bussines day to get fixed ( i found out about this solution yesterday ).
The problem starts here, I never changed anything, no credentials of the accounts, the credentials were the same as he gave me and I told him to connect directly because I had not changed any credentials.
All good until he told me to confirm a number that appeared on the iPhone device. I have Samsung device so the prompt to confirm had appeared on his customer phone because he owns iPhone. You can see the proof here because he had sent me a screenshot that he received from the customer on Safari:


If you zoom you can clearly see it is an iPhone.

As you can see, my device is a Samsung and you can clearly see i got logged out from the phone device because he had changed password and secured the gmail account:


Last email i received was on 16th August with the content that Google account was recovered notification:

This is the prompt he received to confirm using iPhone device that his customer owned:



And then he eventually logged in on the account after his customer confirmed the login and he changed password. 
What he tried then was that he told me and actually almost begging me to log in on the gmail account which i did not understand why at that moment until I realised that he wanted me to tell him that gmail account password is wrong. Which then he started telling me that I changed password and that I don't want to give him the account because I changed gmail password ( which HE DID ).
As you can see, when I tried to put the old password, gmail error was that password was changed less than one hour ago at that time:


But then luckly for me, having created the gmail account on my device, I could reset again the password using just the verification of putting the old password that I remember and if it was correct I could easily reset password which I did and put again a password and gave him the new password, giving him ofcourse the proof of what I was doing:

I gave him back the password.

What happened next was incredible and very out of this world. After few minutes of giving him the password that I reset after he changed it first time trying to solve things without escalating to a scandal, he changed the password, secured the account by putting a phone recovery number and told me again that I changed password trying to act the victim:

Here you can see I gave him the password that I reset at xx:17


Here you can see he told me AGAIN that I changed password myself at xx:26 ( 9 minutes after )

This is very important because within the 9 minutes frame, he changed the password and secured the account entirely so he could blame me again for changing the password. He secured the account in a way that I could not do anything anymore, to recover it and give him AGAIN the password so he could say this.
As you can see, when I want to reset password now, i get these verification methods:



To be clear and to end my reply in a good manner, what I want to say is that he DID NOT SCAM ME of funds specifically, but please pay attention on what he is trying to do:
He sent me $75 for the first pack because I could not accept that because his customer as I said before had already loaded and used the Onlyfans account which makes impossible for me to sell again  ( the replacement was not mandatory because the issue could have been fixed by Onlyfans support ). But then he proceeded in TRYING to SCAM ME and keep both packs of Onlyfans and Skrill and also the money by acting the victim here. 
The problem is that he is trying to scam, and this is a very unprofessional way of approaching things since he can do this over and over again and people can actually fall for such things if not enough proofs have been gathered during the deal. 
I want to also clarify that I had blocked him on Telegram because he was trying to put words on my mouth and social-engineering me into refunding him the money. I specifically told him that there is no room for chatting on Telegram anymore and the only solution to solve the dispute was through forum.

It is a very shady way of acting and dealing since I always tried to help him with the deals we had before, always replied promptly and never complained.

[OnlyCheap]

First of all, I didn’t try to scam him. I’m a long-time, reputable seller with a good reputation on this forum. I’m not a fucking beggar who would scam for just $75.

He said that since my client had already used the account and loaded money onto it, he couldn’t sell it anymore. So I offered to buy it, and I paid him another $75 last night (I already paid $75 on 14-15 aug and this is the second time). As you can see, I had already paid for the first account that my client used.



He’s posting a login from a Hungarian device, Im not live in that country so its not me. and he lives in Romania  that's close to Hungary. But as he says, I never added a number to it because I couldn’t even log in. After a few minutes, he gave me a new password and I logged in and changed the password (because I already paid to it), but never added a phone number to it. After few mins, he changed the password again through a recovery method or something because I forgot to add 2 step verification to it and I was logged out from everywhere.





After that, when I asked him for the new password that he changed the second time, he told me that I had changed it and that I was going to scam him like this.

But I never asked for a refund, I just asked for the account that I had already paid for. Then he started screaming and saying that I was going to scam him and that my next step was to ask for a refund. I simply asked him for the password that he changed the second time. You can see that with this proof.

I don’t understand what his argument is.

After that, he tried not to give me the account, so I asked him for my money or my account. I gave him $150 so far and he only gave me one account. He’s trying to keep the account and the money by saying I tried to scam him and by starting a scam report at first. But I can't be scammed by him without my account or my money. After that, he blocked me.

[lilhottie]

Okay. So, apparently Onlycheap is really trying to trick the entire staff and everyone in giving you this false impression. This is so disrespectful but at the same time such a never seen before situation, I have never encountered such a situation and I have never thought before not even in my wildest dreams someone can be so malicious and trying to pull such a scam off.
Argument are in my opinion pretty much put on the table, as I gave specific proofs and arguments. What he is doing instead, he is trying to change the context in multiple discussions we had to trick everyone, which is crazy.

What I want to say to this is that we have everything in front of us.
I mean that Google has different notifications for when someone gets disconnected because someone else changed password or for when someone logs out manually from the account. This is what I mean:

When you click on the "Manage your Google account" and you got disconnected automatically by Google because someone else changed password, this is the error you get, Google forces you to log in on the account again with the new password.
You cannot force a logout in any other way on Google from phone directly, if you want to log out from one Google account, you have to delete it completely, which will not show anymore in the Google accounts list, like this:

So let's take the [email protected] example and the gmail account that i am logged in on at this moment:
If i click on the "Manage your Google account" on [email protected] account, I can easily do that because I am still logged in and it looks like this ofcourse:


But if I try to click on Manage your account on [email protected] account which is the one he changed the password on, the error of connecting again pops up:
 
( as you can see in the previous reply )

Now i will show you how it looks if i want to disconnect manually from an account on phone:


You can see the only way to log out an account from phone is like this, and after doing this it disappears from your google accounts list until you reconnect. ( you can try that to check because it is basic knowledge of Google ).

Also on my laptop, you can see that [email protected] account session has expired, not signed out, but expired, because he changed the password and Google disconnected me automatically. For the other 2 accounts you can see it appears SIGNED OUT because I logged out manually, which is different. 


All this proof is to show you the real truth and how things work, the only thing he provided is chat screenshots and trying to take things out of context in his own benefit.
This is very bad, very very bad because he has a certain reputation and likes count, but he still tries to act like this for $75 after I helped him so so much with all inquiries he had. Please take measurements because he might try this same thing with other people and people might get scammed by this scam-scheme. Thank you

[OnlyCheap]

I have no intention of misleading the staff. I have explained what happened to me and the fraud that happened to me. And I have not posted any false information or anything here. There's no point in you posting a screenshot and a tutorial explaining how you signed out here. Because you still have my account and my money.

Don't waste the staff’s and my time on something you just imagined and you have no argument here to talk about.
Because you still hold my money and my account for no reason

I clearly said that I logged in with the new password you gave me and changed the password on my account. Because I had paid for it and it’s my account. But the issue is you changed the password for second time and logged me out from everywhere.

And your whole point here is that you imagined that I'm trying to scam you by my next step and you're trying to prevent it by opening a scam report for NO FUCKING REASON because you want MY MONEY and MY ACCOUNT TOO.

I don't understand what basis you have for screaming lies like this.

And you blocked me on Telegram and took away my right to contact for you, and you are trying to steal my money and my account by pretending to be something you thought up. 

You still holding my money and my account for no reason like a kid

This section is for reporting fraud or scams, not for reporting something you just imagined and that I can't do anything about. 

And I had paid you money. And I only asked for the account, not a refund. Then you screaming me and blocked me when I asked for what i have to be own 

Here everyone can see that you have scammed me and that you are avoiding giving me money or the account by opening a scam report before me.

I am formally requesting that this individual be banned from the forum. He has made defamatory remarks against me by falsely calling me a fraud, which constitutes a personal insult and damages my reputation. Such conduct is inappropriate, violates the principles of respectful communication, and disrupts the integrity of this community.